{"id":160,"date":"2016-07-11T22:26:00","date_gmt":"2016-07-11T21:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/?p=160"},"modified":"2016-07-11T23:12:04","modified_gmt":"2016-07-11T22:12:04","slug":"confessions-dhistoire-dalexandrie-a-actium","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/11\/confessions-dhistoire-dalexandrie-a-actium\/","title":{"rendered":"Confessions d&rsquo;Histoire &#8211; D&rsquo;Alexandrie \u00e0 Actium"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Aujourd&rsquo;hui petit article pour parler de Confessions d&rsquo;Histoire. Le nouvel \u00e9pisode est sorti fin de semaine derni\u00e8re, j&rsquo;ai kiff\u00e9 ! <\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"D&#039;Alexandrie \u00e0 Actium - Cl\u00e9op\u00e2tre, Jules C\u00e9sar, Marc-Antoine\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6gRKZbslo0g?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h1>De la vulgarisation historique ?<\/h1>\n<p>D&rsquo;ordinaire, je suis pas forc\u00e9ment fan de la vulgarisation historique (et je pr\u00e9f\u00e8re m\u00eame souvent lire <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2016\/05\/03\/le-monde-hellenistique-pierre-cabanes\/\">des bouquins un peu acad\u00e9miques<\/a><\/strong>). La vulgarisation historique donne souvent \u00e0 voir l&rsquo;histoire comme des faits parfaitement \u00e9tablis (alors qu&rsquo;il est dure d&rsquo;avoir des certitudes) et pr\u00e9sente pas forc\u00e9ment l&rsquo;aspect m\u00e9thodologique et critique de la discipline. Quand c&rsquo;est pas le grand n&rsquo;importe quoi des faits romanc\u00e9s et arrang\u00e9s pour servir une vision simpliste ou un agenda politique. Comme le r\u00e9sume si bien <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/c\/histony\/videos\">Histony<\/a><\/strong> en parlant des derniers m\u00e9faits de St\u00e9phane Berne: <\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"fr\">\n<p lang=\"fr\" dir=\"ltr\">Non mais SH, c&#39;est \u00e0 l&#39;Histoire ce que le catalogue des 3 Suisses est \u00e0 la sexualit\u00e9. Ok pour un d\u00e9but, mais si \u00e7a dure trop, c&#39;est glauque.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Histony (@Histony1) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Histony1\/status\/750460698589888513\">5 juillet 2016<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Si vous voulez en savoir plus sur pourquoi la vulgarisation c&rsquo;est souvent limite, regardez histony d\u00e9monter Berne:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"St\u00e9phane, roi de l&#039;audimat  - Veni Vidi Sensi #3\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/SbbEGLhNGZs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>ou Guillemin:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Henri Guillemin est-il fiable ? - Veni Vidi Sensi #4\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/09_1dSDfe1c?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>En attendant qu&rsquo;il d\u00e9monte Confessions d&rsquo;Histoire ;). <\/p>\n<h1>Pourquoi ca me plait<\/h1>\n<p>Mais je trouve que Confessions d&rsquo;Histoire est vraiment super bien fait, et pour plusieurs raisons. <\/p>\n<h2>c&rsquo;est lol<\/h2>\n<p>D&rsquo;abord c&rsquo;est dr\u00f4le. Et l&rsquo;humour a plusieurs avantages (au del\u00e0 du fait tout b\u00eate que c&rsquo;est rigolo \u00e0 regarder). <\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ig-aJzjLe6s<\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;humour permet une distanciation du discours. Quand quelqu&rsquo;un fait une blague on s&rsquo;attend pas \u00e0 ce que \u00e7a soit 100% vrai. Par l&rsquo;utilisation de l&rsquo;humour sur un discours historique, le spectateur est plus \u00e0 m\u00eame de prendre du recul face \u00e0 ce qu&rsquo;on lui dit, et \u00e0 se poser la question si c&rsquo;est vraiment les faits (ou du moins ce qu&rsquo;on en conna\u00eet objectivement) ou si c&rsquo;est juste pour faire une bonne punch line. Il est moins engag\u00e9 \u00e0 croire tout ce qu&rsquo;on lui dit, et plus pouss\u00e9 dans une attitude critique. <\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;autre avantage de l&rsquo;humour, c&rsquo;est que \u00e7a permet de d\u00e9dramatiser les faits. Quand on parle Histoire, et surtout la grande Histoire, les faits, au del\u00e0 des anecdotes, sont rarement rigolos en eux m\u00eame, c&rsquo;est des guerres, des assassinats, etc&#8230; Face \u00e0 des faits tragiques, \u00e7a peut \u00eatre tentant de les raconter sur un mode tragique. Donc avec un ton grave et s\u00e9rieux, des gentils, des m\u00e9chants, une morale \u00e0 la fin de l&rsquo;histoire&#8230; toutes les bonnes recettes du th\u00e9\u00e2tre tragique en fait. Et \u00e7a, bah c&rsquo;est quand m\u00eame le meilleur moyen de dire de la merde et de perdre toute nuance. Alors que l&rsquo;humour permet ici de d\u00e9dramatiser le truc et de garder l&rsquo;attention du spectateur tout en restant plus nuanc\u00e9. <\/p>\n<h2>La parole aux personnages<\/h2>\n<p>L&rsquo;autre aspect que je trouve tr\u00e8s bon dans Confessions d&rsquo;Histoires c&rsquo;est le fait de donner la parole aux diff\u00e9rents personnages. Au d\u00e9but \u00e7a \u00e0 l&rsquo;air d&rsquo;\u00eatre juste un truc inspir\u00e9 du pire de la t\u00e9l\u00e9 r\u00e9alit\u00e9:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"CONCESSIONS INFIMES, JE SUIS LATINO ET ALORS ?\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/59H-CyzTxDg?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>En r\u00e9alit\u00e9, \u00e7a permet d&rsquo;avoir potentiellement des points de vue l\u00e9g\u00e8rement diff\u00e9rents entre les diff\u00e9rents protagonistes. Et m\u00eame si une vision globale se d\u00e9gage, elle est faite par petite touche. Ca me semble assez adapt\u00e9 pour vulgariser de l&rsquo;histoire, ou finalement le travail d&rsquo;historien est justement d&rsquo;essayer de reconstituer une vision \u00e0 partir de sources vari\u00e9es et contradictoires parlant d&rsquo;un m\u00eame fait. (Globalement j&rsquo;aime beaucoup les r\u00e9cits \u00e0 plusieurs voix, de Game of Thrones (<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=1CLCOvZOh1o\">les livres<\/a><\/strong>), \u00e0 <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/05\/hyperion\/\">Hyp\u00e9rion<\/a><\/strong>, ou la Horde du Contrevent). <\/p>\n<p>L&rsquo;autre avantage du format, c&rsquo;est de donner uniquement la parole aux personnages et pas aux historiens modernes (ce qui peut sembler paradoxal). Les \u00e9missions de vulgarisation qui font intervenir un historien le place dans une position d&rsquo;expert, d&rsquo;autorit\u00e9, de source de v\u00e9rit\u00e9. Et comme le temps est limit\u00e9 et que c&rsquo;est de la vulgarisation, elles ne font intervenir ces \u00ab\u00a0experts\u00a0\u00bb que de fa\u00e7on br\u00e8ve et sans contradicteur du m\u00eame niveau. En refusant de faire la place \u00e0 un discours d&rsquo;expert le programme ne se place pas dans une posture d&rsquo;autorit\u00e9. <\/p>\n<p>Encore une fois il \u00e9veille l&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eat du spectateur et l&rsquo;engage \u00e0 chercher par lui m\u00eame plus de d\u00e9tails. <\/p>\n<h2>Les sources<\/h2>\n<p>Enfin, c&rsquo;est basique mais le programme cite ses sources principales, et <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/confessionsdhistoire.fr\/episodes\/episode-la-bataille-d-actium\/\">met \u00e0 disposition des informations compl\u00e9mentaires sur son site web<\/a><\/strong> pour argumenter les diff\u00e9rentes positions d\u00e9fendue par les personnages dans le programme. Ca permet d&rsquo;en savoir un peu plus et de commencer \u00e0 creuser. <\/p>\n<p>Voila, pas grand chose de mauvais \u00e0 dire sur cette \u00e9mission, j&rsquo;attends la suite avec impatience. Ils se pressent pas forc\u00e9ment pour les faire sortir (mais si la qualit\u00e9 est au rendez vous, je suis pas contre). Si ca t&rsquo;as plus et que tu veux en voir plus, tu peux <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/confessionsdhistoire.fr\/nous-soutenir\/\">leur donner un petit coup de pouce.<\/a><\/strong>  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Aujourd&rsquo;hui petit article pour parler de Confessions d&rsquo;Histoire. Le nouvel \u00e9pisode est sortie fin de semaine derni\u00e8re, j&rsquo;ai kiff\u00e9 ! <\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6gRKZbslo0g\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/p7tYAm-2A\">[clic pour lire plus&#8230;]<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3],"tags":[10,8],"class_list":["post-160","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liens","tag-histoire","tag-video"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Confessions d&#039;Histoire - D&#039;Alexandrie \u00e0 Actium - Lignes d&#039;Orages<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/11\/confessions-dhistoire-dalexandrie-a-actium\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Confessions d&#039;Histoire - D&#039;Alexandrie \u00e0 Actium - Lignes d&#039;Orages\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Aujourd&#039;hui petit article pour parler de Confessions d&#039;Histoire. 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