{"id":1841,"date":"2019-05-10T17:15:42","date_gmt":"2019-05-10T16:15:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/?p=1841"},"modified":"2019-05-10T17:15:48","modified_gmt":"2019-05-10T16:15:48","slug":"les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/","title":{"rendered":"Les Grecs &#8211; De la paix d&rsquo;Apam\u00e9e \u00e0 la victoire d&rsquo;Actium &#8211; Claude Vial"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>On revient \u00e0 la s\u00e9rie \u00ab\u00a0<strong>Nouvelle Histoire de l&rsquo;Antiquit\u00e9<\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb (pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e <a href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/02\/05\/la-republique-romaine-jean-michel-david\/\"><strong>ici<\/strong><\/a><strong> <\/strong>et <a href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2016\/05\/03\/le-monde-hellenistique-pierre-cabanes\/\"><strong>l\u00e0<\/strong><\/a>) pour aborder le Tome 5 : Les Grecs de la paix d&rsquo;Apam\u00e9e \u00e0 la victoire d&rsquo;Actium. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_76 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<div class=\"ez-toc-title-container\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table des mati\u00e8res<\/p>\n<span class=\"ez-toc-title-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" class=\"ez-toc-pull-right ez-toc-btn ez-toc-btn-xs ez-toc-btn-default ez-toc-toggle\" aria-label=\"Toggle Table of Content\"><span class=\"ez-toc-js-icon-con\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" 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ez-toc-heading-level-1'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#La_periode_les_lieux_les_institutions\" >La p\u00e9riode, les lieux, les institutions.<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-2' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#Les_Grecs\" >Les Grecs ?<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#Cites_Confederations_et_Royaumes\" >Cit\u00e9s, Conf\u00e9d\u00e9rations et Royaumes<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-1'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#LHistoire_vue_par_les_vaincus\" >L&rsquo;Histoire vue par les vaincus<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-2' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#Une_serie_de_defaites\" >Une s\u00e9rie de d\u00e9faites<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-7\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#La_fin_des_seleucides\" >La fin des s\u00e9leucides<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-8\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#La_fin_des_antigonides\" >La fin des antigonides<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-9\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#La_fin_du_royaume_de_Pergame\" >La fin du royaume de Pergame<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-10\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#La_fin_du_royaume_du_Pont\" >La fin du royaume du Pont<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-11\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#Lorient_comme_champ_de_bataille\" >L&rsquo;orient comme champ de bataille<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-12\" href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/#Une_autre_vision_du_role_de_Rome\" >Une autre vision du r\u00f4le de Rome.<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Le_Livre\"><\/span>Le Livre <span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>Donc oui, apr\u00e8s avoir lu les Tome 1, 2, 3, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2016\/05\/03\/le-monde-hellenistique-pierre-cabanes\/\">4<\/a><\/strong> puis un petit saut au <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/02\/05\/la-republique-romaine-jean-michel-david\/\">7<\/a><\/strong>, retour logique (ou pas) au 5.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pour ceux qui ont pas suivi les \u00e9pisodes pr\u00e9c\u00e9dents. On est sur une s\u00e9rie de <strong>livres acad\u00e9miques et synth\u00e9tiques<\/strong> pr\u00e9sentant \u00e0 chaque fois une p\u00e9riode et une couverture g\u00e9ographique finalement <strong>assez large. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Globalement j&rsquo;aime bien cette s\u00e9rie de livre, qui apporte une <strong>vision d&rsquo;ensemble<\/strong> et traite une <strong>histoire assez compl\u00e8te<\/strong> (qui ne se r\u00e9sume pas \u00e0 juste une histoire <strong>politico-militaire<\/strong>, mais int\u00e8gre des questions <strong>culturelles et sociales<\/strong>). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le livre est assez <strong>dans la m\u00eame vaine que les pr\u00e9c\u00e9dents<\/strong> (et donc plut\u00f4t cool). Le principal reproche que j&rsquo;aurais (et qui est global sur la s\u00e9rie) et que m\u00eame si il y a des<strong> cartes<\/strong>, elles sont parfois un peu limit\u00e9e et j&rsquo;ai pas forc\u00e9ment tous les noms de lieux en t\u00eate (surtout qu&rsquo;on parle des noms antiques des r\u00e9gions d&rsquo;Asie mineure) mais on finis par s&rsquo;y faire. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"La_periode_les_lieux_les_institutions\"><\/span>La p\u00e9riode, les lieux, les institutions.<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>La p\u00e9riode couverte (188 \u00e0 31 AEC) est globalement la m\u00eame que pour le livre 7 (qui couvrait de 218 \u00e0 31 AEC), mais cette fois avec un<strong> focus sur le monde Grec<\/strong> plut\u00f4t que sur le monde Romain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Les_Grecs\"><\/span>Les Grecs ? <span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>La notion de monde Grec ici doit \u00eatre comprise pas comme une <strong>zone g\u00e9ographique forc\u00e9ment bien d\u00e9finie<\/strong>, ni encore moins comme une notion ethnique, plut\u00f4t comme une <strong>notion culturelle<\/strong>. Font partie du monde Grec, ceux qui <strong>vivent comme les Grecs. <\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Et c&rsquo;est quoi vivre comme les Grecs ? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Alors, <strong>en gros: <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Parler <\/strong>grec (c&rsquo;est mieux)<\/li><li>Vivre plus ou moins sur le mod\u00e8le de la <strong>cit\u00e9 <\/strong>(ou en tout cas lui accorder une certaine importance) <\/li><li>V\u00e9n\u00e9rer des <strong>dieux <\/strong>Grecs (au moins certains), et participer \u00e0 des f<strong>\u00eates religieuses communes<\/strong> avec d&rsquo;autres Grecs. <\/li><li>Accorder une importance \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9ducation \u00ab\u00a0\u00e0 la Grecque\u00a0\u00bb : avoir un <strong>Gymnase <\/strong>et des <strong>comp\u00e9titions athl\u00e9tiques<\/strong>, des \u00e9coles de <strong>Philosophie<\/strong>, etc. <\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"344\" height=\"259\" data-attachment-id=\"2008\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/greek-way-of-life\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Greek-way-of-life.png?fit=344%2C259&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"344,259\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Greek way of life\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Greek way of life &#8230; ouai ouai&#8230;&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Greek-way-of-life.png?fit=300%2C226&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Greek-way-of-life.png?fit=344%2C259&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Greek-way-of-life.png?resize=344%2C259&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2008\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Greek-way-of-life.png?w=344&amp;ssl=1 344w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Greek-way-of-life.png?resize=300%2C226&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 344px) 100vw, 344px\" \/><figcaption>Greek way of life &#8230; ouai ouai&#8230;<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Tout \u00e7a se r\u00e9partit en gros sur la <strong>Gr\u00e8ce continentale<\/strong>, mais aussi la <strong>Turquie<\/strong> actuelle, le pourtour de la <strong>mer Noire<\/strong>, la <strong>Syrie et le proche orient,<\/strong> et jusqu&rsquo;en <strong>Egypte <\/strong>avec <strong>Alexandrie <\/strong>(<em>m\u00eame si le royaume des Lagides est pas vraiment trait\u00e9 en d\u00e9tail dans ce livre<\/em>). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Cites_Confederations_et_Royaumes\"><\/span>Cit\u00e9s, Conf\u00e9d\u00e9rations et Royaumes<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Au niveau organisation on trouve en gros trois cas de figure: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Des cit\u00e9s:<\/strong> sur le mod\u00e8le traditionnel de la cit\u00e9 antique grecques: la cit\u00e9 \u00e9tat ind\u00e9pendante qui contr\u00f4le un petit territoire autour d&rsquo;une ville, et fait \u00e9ventuellement la guerre \u00e0 ses voisines. Ces cit\u00e9s sont dirig\u00e9e de fa\u00e7on plus ou moins d\u00e9mocratique ou oligarchique (assembl\u00e9e, magistrats, citoyens, etc.). Sur la p\u00e9riode ce sont des puissances mineures d&rsquo;un point de vue politique et militaire, mais parfois des puissance culturelles (Ath\u00e8nes, Alexandrie). <\/li><li><strong>Des conf\u00e9d\u00e9rations: <\/strong>En gros des cit\u00e9s qui se sont r\u00e9uni en conf\u00e9d\u00e9rations pour peser un poil plus lourd. \u00c7a reste des puissances moyennes, mais elles peuvent esp\u00e9rer peser un poil plus sur l&rsquo;\u00e9chiquier politique. <\/li><li><strong>Les royaumes:<\/strong> Ce sont les royaumes h\u00e9ritiers plus ou moins directes du royaume de Mac\u00e9doine de Philippe et d&rsquo;Alexandre. Si il fonctionne finalement comme n&rsquo;importe quel autre royaume de l&rsquo;\u00e9poque, ils se consid\u00e8rent comme Grecs et aime bien se voir en bienfaiteurs des cit\u00e9s libres. Du coup ils financent des f\u00eates, des temples et des gymnases dans les cit\u00e9s libres. Ce sont des puissances moyennes \u00e0 importantes.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"LHistoire_vue_par_les_vaincus\"><\/span>L&rsquo;Histoire vue par les vaincus<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>Ce qui est sans doute le plus int\u00e9ressant sur cette p\u00e9riode et cette couverture, c&rsquo;est que pour une fois on a <strong>un petit peu la perspective des vaincus de l&rsquo;Histoire <\/strong>(ce qui pour cette p\u00e9riode est plut\u00f4t rare).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Une_serie_de_defaites\"><\/span>Une s\u00e9rie de d\u00e9faites<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p> En effet, sur la p\u00e9riode, les Grecs en prennent plein la tronche et vont, face \u00e0 la puissance de Rome, de <strong>d\u00e9faite en d\u00e9faite<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"La_fin_des_seleucides\"><\/span>La fin des s\u00e9leucides<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>La p\u00e9riode s&rsquo;ouvre d\u00e9j\u00e0 sur la <strong>Paix d&rsquo;Apam\u00e9e<\/strong>: les romains viennent de mettre <strong>une branl\u00e9e aux S\u00e9leucides<\/strong>. C&rsquo;est un moment marquant parce qu&rsquo;\u00e0 partir de l\u00e0, Rome devient clairement la <strong>superpuissance<\/strong> qui d\u00e9cidera pour les autres des fronti\u00e8res de l&rsquo;Orient et agira en <strong>arbitre ultime<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"517\" data-attachment-id=\"2009\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/apamee\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Apam%C3%A8e.png?fit=742%2C599&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"742,599\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Apam\u00e8e\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;L&amp;rsquo;Asie Mineure apr\u00e8s la Paix d&amp;rsquo;Apam\u00e9e&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Apam%C3%A8e.png?fit=300%2C242&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Apam%C3%A8e.png?fit=640%2C517&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Apam%C3%A8e.png?resize=640%2C517&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2009\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Apam%C3%A8e.png?w=742&amp;ssl=1 742w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Apam%C3%A8e.png?resize=300%2C242&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/Apam%C3%A8e.png?resize=334%2C270&amp;ssl=1 334w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption>L&rsquo;Asie Mineure apr\u00e8s la Paix d&rsquo;Apam\u00e9e<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Avec la paix d&rsquo;Apam\u00e9e les S\u00e9leucides sont en gros <strong>vir\u00e9s d&rsquo;Asie Mineur<\/strong>.  L&rsquo;arriv\u00e9e \u00e0 l&rsquo;est des <strong>Parthes<\/strong> quelques d\u00e9cennies plus tard va finir de les achever.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"La_fin_des_antigonides\"><\/span>La fin des antigonides<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Autre royaume issue de l&rsquo;\u00e9poque d&rsquo;Alexandre, les prochains \u00e0 dispara\u00eetre sont les Antigonides. Ils tentent un peu de <strong>se rebeller contre Rome<\/strong> en s&rsquo;alliant avec une bonne partie de la <strong>Gr\u00e8ce continentale.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube aligncenter wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Cha\u00eene de commandement tactique : La bataille de Pydna (168 AEC)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/89lD4bGY7e4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption>La bataille de Pydna : la grande confrontation entre la l\u00e9gion Romaine et les phalanges mac\u00e9donienne. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Mais ils prennent eux aussi une racl\u00e9e signant la fin de leur dynastie remplac\u00e9e peu apr\u00e8s par <strong>la province Romaine de Mac\u00e9doine<\/strong>. C&rsquo;est la premi\u00e8re \u00ab\u00a0province\u00a0\u00bb dans le coin, et c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;un d\u00e9but. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"La_fin_du_royaume_de_Pergame\"><\/span>La fin du royaume de Pergame <span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>A la suite du retrait des S\u00e9leucide, c&rsquo;est le <strong>Royaume de Pergame<\/strong> qui avait pris (avec le support de Rome) l&rsquo;ascendant sur l&rsquo;Asie Mineure. Au passage, <strong>il finan\u00e7ait et supportait pas mal de cit\u00e9s Grecques<\/strong>, contribuant clairement \u00e0 leur prosp\u00e9rit\u00e9. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oui mais voil\u00e0 le roi de Pergame \u00e9tait un peu joueur, et il avait fait un testament <strong>l\u00e9guant le royaume au peuple romain<\/strong>. J&rsquo;imagine qu&rsquo;il avait fait \u00e7a pour dissuader ses proches de souhaiter sa mort, et qu&rsquo;il se disait qu&rsquo;il aurait le temps de changer le truc sur ses vieux jours. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"458\" height=\"301\" data-attachment-id=\"2010\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/what-could-go-wrong\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/what-could-go-wrong.gif?fit=458%2C301&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"458,301\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"what could go wrong\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/what-could-go-wrong.gif?fit=300%2C197&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/what-could-go-wrong.gif?fit=458%2C301&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/what-could-go-wrong.gif?resize=458%2C301&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2010\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Mais voil\u00e0 il est mort sans rien changer&#8230; et Paf a <strong>plus de royaume de Pergame<\/strong>; bonjour la province romaine d&rsquo;Asie (les romains ont du bien rigoler en lisant le testament). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"La_fin_du_royaume_du_Pont\"><\/span>La fin du royaume du Pont <span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Dernier gros challenger pour la cause des Grecs : Mithridate VI Eupator. Il lancera une <strong>mega r\u00e9bellion des Grecs contre Rome<\/strong>. En commen\u00e7ant proprement : un <strong>massacre coordonn\u00e9<\/strong> des citoyens romains r\u00e9sidant dans les cit\u00e9s Grecques. Blam, le jour dit, \u00e0 l&rsquo;heure dite, vous me tuer tout le monde, femme et enfants compris (<em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Asiatic_Vespers\">80000 \u00e0 150000 morts quand m\u00eame<\/a><\/em>). Le genre de truc qui te pose bien (et surtout qui assure que tes alli\u00e9s seront un peu oblig\u00e9 d&rsquo;\u00eatre fid\u00e8les). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"363\" data-attachment-id=\"2011\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/05\/10\/les-grecs-de-la-paix-dapamee-a-la-victoire-dactium-claude-vial\/order-66\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/order-66.jpg?fit=687%2C390&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"687,390\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"order 66\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/order-66.jpg?fit=300%2C170&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/order-66.jpg?fit=640%2C363&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/order-66.jpg?resize=640%2C363&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2011\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/order-66.jpg?w=687&amp;ssl=1 687w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/order-66.jpg?resize=300%2C170&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/lignesdorages.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/order-66.jpg?resize=476%2C270&amp;ssl=1 476w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Il faudra <strong>plusieurs guerres \u00e0 Rome<\/strong> pour s&rsquo;en d\u00e9barrasser du Mithridate. En n&rsquo;oubliant pas au passage de biiien se venger du massacre sur les cit\u00e9s grecques. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Alors plusieurs guerre n\u00e9cessaire <strong>\u00e7a peut sembler pas mal<\/strong>, on se dit que Mithridate posait peut \u00eatre enfin une r\u00e9sistance valable face \u00e0 Rome&#8230; Et puis apr\u00e8s on se rappelle qu&rsquo;en fait pendant la m\u00eame p\u00e9riode, Rome faisait aussi face \u00e0 une m\u00e9chante guerre civile (<a href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/02\/05\/la-republique-romaine-jean-michel-david\/#Acte_3:__Marius_et_Sylla_\"><strong>Marius vs Sylla<\/strong><\/a>) et \u00e0 la grande r\u00e9volte d&rsquo;esclave de Spartacus. Du coup c&rsquo;est limite si le <strong>Mithridate ils l&rsquo;ont calm\u00e9 facile avec une main dans le dos. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Lorient_comme_champ_de_bataille\"><\/span>L&rsquo;orient comme champ de bataille<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>On pourrait se dire qu&rsquo;au moins une fois que les romains aurait tout conquis proprement, bah au moins les Grecs pourraient profiter de la fameuse <em><strong>Pax Romana<\/strong><\/em>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bah non. <strong>Pas d&rsquo;bol<\/strong>. Les romains se sont en effet dit qu&rsquo;apr\u00e8s tout le coin \u00e9tait pas mal pour se foutre sur la gueule. Du coup ce sera un territoire de pr\u00e9dilection pour les futures guerre Civile: Entre <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/02\/05\/la-republique-romaine-jean-michel-david\/#Acte_4:_Pomp%C3%A9e_et_C%C3%A9sar\">C\u00e9sar et Pomp\u00e9e,<\/a><\/strong> puis entre <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/02\/05\/la-republique-romaine-jean-michel-david\/#Acte_5:__Marc_Antoine_et_Octave_\">Octave et Marc Antoine<\/a><\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Une_autre_vision_du_role_de_Rome\"><\/span>Une autre vision du r\u00f4le de Rome. <span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Si le <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/lignesdorages.com\/index.php\/2019\/02\/05\/la-republique-romaine-jean-michel-david\/\">livre 7 (La R\u00e9publique Romaine) <\/a><\/strong>de la s\u00e9rie donnait une vision tr\u00e8s centr\u00e9e sur Rome et ses enjeux politique interne. On a ici une vision tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rente du Romain. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Balaise militairement, les romains apparaissent surtout comme des <strong>gros crevard coloniaux<\/strong> qui d\u00e9barque chez leurs voisins grecs pour tout piller, soumettre les cit\u00e9s \u00e0 des tributs exorbitant, leur proposer de r\u00e9gler via des emprunts \u00e0 des taux d&rsquo;usuriers, et tabasser tout le monde quand \u00e7a paye pas assez ou pas assez vite. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ca fait un peu relativiser le c\u00f4t\u00e9<em><strong> \u00ab\u00a0philhell\u00e8ne\u00a0\u00bb<\/strong><\/em> des Romains&#8230; M\u00eame ceux qui devait r\u00e9ellement appr\u00e9cier la culture Grecques devait \u00eatre vu par les grecs comme des <strong>gros barbares un peu relou <\/strong>(<em>et surtout vachement dangereux<\/em>) qui venaient s&rsquo;approprier leur culture et risquaient \u00e0 tout moment de tout p\u00e9ter. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On revient \u00e0 la s\u00e9rie \u00ab\u00a0Nouvelle Histoire de l&rsquo;Antiquit\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb (pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e ici et l\u00e0) pour aborder le Tome 5 : Les Grecs de la paix d&rsquo;Apam\u00e9e \u00e0 la victoire d&rsquo;Actium. 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